A transsexual writes…

AI imagining of Louise's opening sentence

Over the past couple of years I’ve been corresponding with a couple of older male transsexuals. They are courteous types who have watched in horror at what they see as the politicisation of the environment around their identities. Both are post-op and have Gender Recognition Certificates. Before what Róisín Michaux calls “the great entrooning”, both felt less under scrutiny to the extent they passed and/or were tolerated by their local communities.

One correspondent, who I have agreed we will call ‘Louise’, has written to me on several occasions about developments in the public sphere. Louise is annoyed at both “GCs” (gender critical people) and “transgenderists”, for various reasons. I value a heartfelt rant and so asked Louise to write something for this website.

I have let the assertions in the piece below stand untouched, as I think it offers an insight into a specific perspective which is worth hearing. I hope you get something from it:

“It’s a pleasant summer evening in a sleepy little village in Derbyshire. I’m seated on a bench with my partner, Scott [not his real name either], whom I’ve been dating since June. We’re enjoying a cuddle, just watching the traffic go by. A couple walking past quietly remark, “Awww, look at them”. That was so sweet.

It’s a deeply emotional moment for me, having at last found romance with a lovely man who truly adores me. It’s only taken me 31 years to find the right one, mind you, for as a transsexual woman who underwent complete sex reassignment surgery in 1995 the chances of someone ever loving me for who I am were remote. Aged 65 I’ve never known love until now. I’ve much to look forward to as Scott and I develop our relationship.

Alas, next morning, my hopes for happiness in the evening of my life are brutally shattered when my past catches up with me again. A letter arrives from my GP advising that my ongoing hormonal treatment will in future be handled by a transgender clinic…

What?! Surely it must be a mistake. I read the words over and over again, my hands trembling as I clutch the letter. But no, the doctor states unequivocally that big changes are coming for how transgender people receive cross-sex hormones on the NHS. I note the term transgender is used multiple times.

After 13 years with that GP surgery have they not yet understood that I am NOT transgender, but a transsexual, two VERY DIFFERENT things. Why the hell would I need to go to a gender identity clinic for God’s sake when I surgically transitioned three decades ago? Must I start all over again at the back of the queue just to be prescribed meds that I’ve been receiving without a single problem for over thirty years? Or do they actually think I am a cross-dressing man who identifies as a woman so requires oestrogen to enhance my expression of gender incongruence??? Preposterous. 

I may as well abandon all hope if forced to enter such a clinic for the ‘specialists’ working there will have little idea of what transsexuality is. None of them do these days. A medical condition diagnosed by the NHS for 60 years and totally unrelated to transgender which is a lifestyle choice based on self-identity and driven mainly by social media (covering around 500,000 people in the UK). With only 9000 post op transsexuals, the medics will have scant knowledge of us. So lots of scope to foul things up mightily when it comes to things like hormone treatment.

Unlike transgender people who prefer to remain intact, it is essential for me to take cross-sex hormones for the rest of my life as my body cannot function without them. And knowing that it can take YEARS to be given a first appointment at these clinics I am mortified to think that in the meantime my health would go downhill rapidly, facing horrific bone deterioration, not forgetting changes to my appearance and cognitive decline. So by the time they saw me I could find myself in a wheelchair. Rather too late then I fear.

This move is DANGEROUS, and politically motivated too. The worst crisis to hit me since I lost my dear Mum.

If this change of policy is due to a new medical edict from the government then it is deeply worrying for all 9000 transsexuals in the UK. We have had excellent care from GPs for decades. It has worked perfectly. Being lumped in with half a million cross-dressing or non-binary people and anyone else that cares to self-identify under the trans umbrella will erase our care and is entirely inappropriate to transsexuals.

Catastrophic for those who have had major surgery, not for those who may regard being trans as just a game of dress up. That lifetime of NHS care cannot just be hived off to a woke clinic. And we should not be tossed out as just like those thousands of whatever those trans identities are now washing all over doctors surgeries for drugs. It may well be most GPs just see trans as a fad and a damned nuisance so want rid of them due to the rising cost. Pay ‘experts’ instead to deal with the transgender explosion they argue.

Only we get caught up with the same sweep of the brush.

If the government is behind this stupidity they are messing with a pattern of care transsexuals have had for longer than most MPs were alive. They need to stop this as we need continuity of care.

Ministers need to see my words. They need to know the folly of making trans one thing when it is very far from being that. The Supreme Court cocked up badly by not giving transsexuals a voice. How can the highest court in the land refuse to hear testimony from BOTH sides? Is that even lawful? A national scandal in the making? It beggars belief. Yet not one journalist in the UK has even thought to look into this.

Mr Burnham MUST now change that and give us a voice. Or losing NHS care will result in tragedy and lawsuits against the NHS. 

Bad news for us is good news for transgender activists. Knowing transsexuals stand in the way of their self-ID, they desire our erasure from law. On the other hand the gender critical side seeks exactly the same as a means to bring down the trans ‘cult’ which was not even started by us in one fell swoop. So you see we’re the little guy in the middle being shot at by both sides. The sacrificial lamb in somebody else’s war.

So on that note we lay blame on both the overreach of transgender agitators for getting us into this mess but also the GC movement for their spreading of untruths and disinformation about us. 

For example they keep tossing around home office data which tells of shocking levels of sex abuse by men identifying as women. The end result being a strong case to argue that trans women are just as dangerous as all men and even worse. So they must be treated as men. And housed in male jails or male hospital wards.

Here’s the proof they say. Except it is not proof, for the GCs never reveal that Gender Recognition Certificate holders are NOT part of the data, no stats being available for them.

A new untruth making the rounds currently seems to be a new tactic of the GCs, pinpointing controversial or exhibitionistic examples of cross-dressing men in the media and claiming these are transsexuals, and that they are all the same. After years of referring to trans people as transgender why have they suddenly shifted to using the transsexual label? At least one national newspaper is guilty of this.

Transsexuals are NOT cross-dressers but I believe GCs are desperate to erase the difference between them in the hope of persuading the public (who never cared before) that they don’t want these people anywhere near their wives and daughters. 

Crazy lies making our lives look dangerous and mad. Labelling us all as monsters is not a winning strategy. Other than for an audience of bigots.

Their leaders are not stupid. They are well aware we are not the problem. But it is clear the GCs are determined to blatantly LIE about who we are to win their argument. What they are weaving is nothing short of propaganda against a tiny community in the pursuit of an ideology every bit as questionable as that which they seek to eradicate. My goodness, Dr Goebbels must be looking on with wry amusement in the depths of hell. 

That is what this is all about. Not toilets. Not hospital wards. Extermination. Egged on by bigots who screech that we are just perverted men in dresses, the vote-hungry politicians react. Putting in place dangerous policies meddling in vital healthcare after we have had irreversible sex reassignment surgery or SRS – tantamount to genocide through the back door. Their hands will be red with blood when the tragedies start occurring. Only they will just blame someone else.

I think GCs are literally scared of the truth that a modest number of us – 9000 from 70 million population – can and have integrated into society. But don’t allow a single one of us tell our life story nor give our perspective in a major book since such facts would demolish the GC narrative. I’d be most happy to donate my time with any royalties going to women’s aid charities – not in the hope of being liked but because that’s who I am. I believe in fairness and justice. Sadly no publisher will touch me with a bargepole.

Recently Nick Wallis examined a study into the alleged high failure rate of SRS, such as post operative pain, sexual dysfunction or incontinence. Yet many of us who underwent the procedure have rarely encountered such problems. So are today’s surgeons inferior to those who operated on us so long ago? Of course not. But once again SRS is handed out as a free choice to rather too many unsuitable candidates self-identifying. Hence the surge in the rates of detransition (virtually unknown when I was young). Leading to calls to ban SRS altogether claiming it harms everyone.

When we know in rare cases and not the majority this is a path that does not DESTROY lives it saves lives and enriches the people who are patient and sensible.

JK Rowling astounded critics last month by her social media post in which she agrees SRS is the right treatment in some cases, once the individual suffering with gender dysphoria has tried all means of psychiatric help to resolve their pain. We had YEARS of therapy. She adds that transitioning is made too easy these days when things were much stricter in the past. And blames transgender activists for creating a lot of the problems.

Ms Rowling and I are indeed on the same page on this. I praise her for bringing attention to our plight. If only her side could see transsexuals are not part of the problem but actually part of the solution. We can offer sound advice, we’ve had the lived experiences. But as I say nobody wants to listen. We are too few. Terrified of the brewing storm many of us have gone into hiding. Our voices are but a whisper in the face of a howling gale.

How in 18 months have transsexual lives been utterly overturned when we have done absolutely nothing wrong? How could the UK act like this? We are in a very very dangerous turning point. Our very existence is now a political football and it is no joke to suggest it could cost lives…

Returning to my own tribulation in this discourse I see no alternative but to fight my GP’s decision. Their letter was an order, a diktat allowing me zero say in a very serious matter which will impact my life. Kind of reminded me of those Supreme Court judges.

I will contest this to the bitter end – literally since my life and wellbeing depends on it. Even to the courts. The NHS diagnosed me. The NHS operated on me. And the NHS medicalised me. Thus they have a duty of care, not just drop me due to cost or political expediency. 

Though I keep sobbing and feel that I just want to be with my Mum, in the final analysis I must think of Scott. I must stay strong for him. After all, someone prepared to invest their entire soul in another is one of the most beautiful and fundamental things. 

It makes life worth living.”

My thanks to Louise for taking the time to write this out. If you would like to respond you can do so using the comment form below. I am reasonably tolerant of nonsense sent in my direction, but as Louise is a guest poster, there will be lower bar and I will bin anything rude. If you would like to write a guest post responding to Louise, or anything relevant to the gender wars at all, please message me via the contact form on this website. Thanks.


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Comments

78 responses to “A transsexual writes…”

  1. I am so sorry you have been so negatively affected by the trans gender revolution. As a woman, I think I have only once met a trans sexual and it was very much live and let live. Sadly once we women were told we had to accept any man who called themselves a woman, regardless, then we had to move to enforce our safeguards. A certificate no longer is just for transexuals so we can’t use it to safeguard trans sexuals as well as women. We need a new clear distinction so that both women and trans sexual rights are respected and upheld.

  2. Henry Dodds avatar

    That’s such an interesting post Nick and Louise and for me does two things: make a distinction between transsexual and transgender that I didn’t understand and gives context to the life of Jan Morris (who had gender reassignment surgery in 1972).

    I wish Louise all the best with her medical treatment and with her future life with her partner. But I fear that until some sanity returns to the transgender and GC movements there may be turbulent times ahead.

    1. Eleanor Greene avatar
      Eleanor Greene

      Jan / Jim Morris treated his wife and kids abominably during the first marriage, during the divorce and during the second marriage.
      Only those who have not read the books by his children and himself can think of him as an advert for lauding transexuals

    2. Sarah Parsons avatar
      Sarah Parsons

      The only return to sanity that is required is for us to stop pretending that anyone can change sex, they can’t, as it is binary and immutable.

      As 51% of the population, women deserve the privacy, dignity and safety of single sex spaces, and no man, however they identify, should be allowed in, not even ‘Louise’.

      1. Hear hear

    3. There’s no difference between “transgender” and “transsexual”. They are both synonyms for “transvestite”.

  3. I’m a bit torn by this post. I can see the argument to differentiate between transsexual and transvestite, and believe Louise is wrong to say GC women oppose this. However, the point remains how do we women know the difference? Which men really feel distress at their sex, which ones are living out a fetish and which ones are opportunists looking for access to female spaces?

    Louise wants to make the case that he is special, he really is tran(sexual). That he should be allowed in female spaces because he’s genuine. He doesn’t seem to be able to engage with how women perceive him. It’s unlikely , even after SRS and hormones many years ago, that anyone really perceives him as a woman.

    I do have some sympathy for him though in how his medical treatment will be handled by ‘gender clinics’. It must be distressing.

    This coupling under a generic ‘trans’ label has not had the outcome that Stonewall, et al envisioned. It was pushed to give cover to the fetishists, but has ended up encompassing confused kids, autistic people, spicy straights, sex offenders.

    I will end by saying this. Louise wants to make himself a special case, but a man without a penis is still a man.

    1. Despite your pretence at respect, you end with a deeply alienating comment. Was that really necessary?

      1. It’s what it really comes down to though, that he hasn’t actually changed his sex and is not actually a woman despite how he feels and what he’s done, so I think it’s a completely reasonable comment.

      2. Yes, because “Louise” remains a man even if he’s been castrated. It’s a fact.

      3. The truth is always necessary in contentious issues like this. Whatever the writer of this post has done to change his body to resemble that of a woman, his sex is unchanged, which means that yes, he is a man.

      4. We can see from your comment why this harmful ideology got as far as it did – with the collusion of people who want to change the meaning of words such that people who state facts are ‘alienating’ (when I expect what you mean is ‘rude’ , ‘bigoted’ or ‘unkind’).

        What exactly do YOU think a man without a penis is?

        I have no time for this – pretending, in order to save the feelings of men who are at best delusional and have harmed themselves, and at worst behaving in ways that harm women and children, is not kind.

  4. Stephen Skelton avatar
    Stephen Skelton

    Many thanks to Louise for opening the door a bit more on this subject. Very informative.

  5. Thank you for publishing Louise’s post. It’s an important perspective. As Louise states: “The NHS diagnosed me. The NHS operated on me. And the NHS medicalised me. Thus they have a duty of care”. It’s hard not to agree.

    The issue – as I understand it – is “rights” can’t be dependent on medicalisation. This is why the Gender Recognition Act dropped medicalisation as a requirement for a GRC.

    And, as it’s discrimination to ask to see a GRC, the law de facto treats Louise in the same category as a non-medicalised cross dressing bloke.

    It’s a mess – with many victims. But the NHS has a duty to ensure Louise’s health and I hope that works out.

    1. I agree with this, and let’s not forget that the NHS in its patriarchal way, decided that for Louise to gain a GRC one of the things he had to do was ‘live as a woman’ which (since women all live very differently, other than ways that are determined by our biology). In practice meant he used women-only spaces. Women were given no choice in the matter.
      Women was seen as something any man could attain – that’s deeply misogynistic.

      An apparent tolerance for men in women’s spaces, as long as they are quiet and have made a bit of an effort, should never be confused with acceptance. What it may represent however, is a desire not to rock the boat, appear rude or indeed outright fear. That men don’t understand this has become apparent. It is neither here nor there that some women aren’t bothered. Our consent is not theirs to take away.

      And I see no sign from Louise that he shows any fellow feeling for women here. I am afraid I see a lot of feeling sorry for himself and a lashing out at women. I am glad he’s found a happy relationship.

      There’s much I’d like to say about the hyperbole in his post but I guess I’d seem ‘rude’.

      I keep the larger part of my sympathy for women and children and young adults.

      I guess when Louise was younger that would have included him, because I’d love to know quite what he thought he was doing and what the results would be, but he’s grown now. I hope he gets his hormones.

      1. Thank you, Jo, for writing this response. I have been trying to write a reply a number of times but found it very hard to get the tone I wanted and still address the points – I think you did it wonderfully.

        I also noted your comment on not addressing the hyperbole and that is what I was trying to address in my scrapped replies.

        I can see the anger that comes across in the piece and, as has been pointed out,there is no thought for females in any of the writing. It shows no concern for females and he believes that society should, and has, stepped aside and accepted him as a female. I very much doubt this is true and , living in Brighton, i have worked with and know Transsexuals.
        My other point is that he should NEVER have been told that having extreme surgery and lifelong medical care ( funded!) would force people to treat him as female or that he should be able to use female environments. I understand that this is very difficult to deal with as it is almost retrospective. However, I do believe that this point needs to be made and, however harsh it might sound, he needs to come to terms with that fact.
        I still wish him well with his life and hope he has found lasting happiness with a new partner.

        1. I agree, and thank you. And as to you second to last paragraph. Yes that is true. But it was, and still is a misogynistic world, as I have come to realise as this trans juggernaut took over.

          It would be great if Louise could reflect on that fact – could think about what led him to believe that whatever life experiences and beliefs about men and women he had made him think he could take womanhood, and why he doesn’t appear care about women now. But I doubt he will.

          I could recount really angry tales of myself and all the other women’s despair at what has befallen us because we are female, have female bodies, because we face a lack of care or resources by the NHS, because we have a partner or father who decided to ‘transition, or simply because we chose to take part in this very women’s rights fight-back. But sad, angry men’s needs will always demand to be heard and will always trump sad women.

    2. Damian Walls avatar

      nhs has no such duty. fact.

  6. Jennifer Gourley avatar
    Jennifer Gourley

    My comments:

    ‘Transsexual woman’. He’s still a man. A GRC does not change that.

    Having your penis etc. cut off does not make you a woman. It makes you a man who’s had his bits cut off.

    The issue of “the NHS diagnosed me” is interesting. WPATH have recently admitted their claim that gender dysphoria was real was made up – no facts or evidence behind it.

    “How in 18 months have transsexual lives been utterly overturned when we have done absolutely nothing wrong?” A deliberately emotional appeal handily ignoring the rise of trans gender ideology over the past 10-15 years. He could have spoken up earlier. He chose to take the benefits of no-debate and stonewall law. Crying now is just emotional blackmail.

    This is another attempt to blame women who believe sex is real for not wanting men in their spaces.

    His identity is just that, an identity.

    For someone who claims to be different to ‘transgender’ people he’s giving the same argument e.g. “extermination” they have been giving us for over a decade.

    There is no difference between ‘transsexual’ and ‘transgender’ except in the mind of someone who does not want to lose rights he has never been entitled to.

    The Conversion Practices Draft Bill includes transsexuals. I firmly believe, having read the above that he will use the powers it gives him to jump on anyone who may question his lifestyle choice.

    1. Agree. The special pleading reminds me of another trans-identify man who wants to appears to be the acceptable face of trans people, but was nonetheless responsible for policies being brought into schools that compelled children to referred to adults using the incorrect pronouns, and male teachers being allowed to use women’s toilets.

    2. Hard agree on this comment, Jennifer.

  7. Eleanor Greene avatar
    Eleanor Greene

    An interesting viewpoint, marred by several significant factual errors.

    The Supreme Court does not take interventions from individuals on any case at all ever.

    The ‘pro self id’ side was defended by the Scottish Government and Amnesty UK as an intervenor.
    They did not in any way convince the judges.

    Stonewall, Mermaids, Gendered intelligence, Transactual etc declined to intervene.
    Good Law project applied but were refused.

    It is not the fault of FWS and their intervenors that the other side presented poor arguments.

    Louise also conflates the number of GRC holders with the number of those who have had SRS.

    There is no requirement for any surgery or drugs to get a GRC.
    Around 1/3 of the GRCs issued have been to females.
    There are no good records as to how many GRC holders are still alive
    (it can be reasonably assumed that a fir number of the original cohort are now deceased).

    Are there accurate data for the number of people being treated on the NHS who have had SRS (either born male or born female) ?
    I have never seen a clear statistic.

    I agree with ‘Louise’ that the small number of old school transexuals have been massively disserved by the mess of self ID and the crass attitude of the media treating drag acts as women
    but frankly
    they could and SHOULD have spoken up BEFORE the self ID bill that kicked the hornets nest
    not seven years later.

    1. Agreed absolutely!

      Since humans can’t change sex the difference between transsexuals and the others under the trans umbrella is irrelevant. Everyone needs to use the facilities for their sex or else gender-neutral ones.

      There is no practical way of telling the difference between a transsexual sincerely pretending to be a woman, another trans-identifying man pretending to be a woman, and a man merely pretending to be pretending to be a woman. They all need to stay out so that genuine females can have their dignity, privacy, and safety protected.

  8. Alison Golding avatar
    Alison Golding

    This is Newton’s Third Law of Motion: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    It’s the gender ideologists who include transsexuals, and many others, within the umbrella of “transgender” and insist that anyone who wants to insert themselves under that umbrella must have the fullest of social and legal protections.

    It’s the European Court of Human Rights who have ruled that requiring someone to undergo a surgical transition in order to benefit from gender reassignment protections is an abuse of human rights.

    None of this is the fault of gender critical women, who were barely a movement, just a few individual brave women, when those decisions were made. By men, overwhelmingly.

    Louise had surgery in 1995. Louise has had the benefit of many legal advances since then, including the Sex Discrimination (Gender Reassignment) Regulations 1999 (predecessor to the Equality Act 2010), the Goodwin case in the ECHR in 2002, the Gender Recognition Act 2004, the Civil Partnership Act 2004 and the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013.

    While those advances have benefitted Louise, women have been losing our jobs, our spaces, our rights to speak on our behalf. We don’t just get vitriol, we get intimidation, violence, stalking, rape and death threats from people under the “trans umbrella”. We neither know nor care whether those people have had surgery or what type of surgery they have had. We would be called bigots and transphobes if we tried to treat people under that umbrella differently on that basis, as well as quite possibly falling foul of the European Court of Human Rights.

    I don’t have a solution to Louise’s concerns other than to say: the only people who have any possibility of leaving transsexuals out of this fight are the trans side. And they won’t, because post-op transsexuals and “trans kids” are their legitimacy.

    1. Ali Howarth avatar

      Excellent comment Alison.

  9. Dear Louise,

    I was very sad indeed to read of your plight. Thank you for being so vulnernable and open. It was extremely helpful for my understanding a little more of the complexities around this very vexed and emotive subject.

    With warm wishes and thanks,

    Anne Atkins

  10. Nicola Watson avatar
    Nicola Watson

    I haven’t read all of this yet but, as a so-called gender critical woman, I can say that I have a lot of common ground with the writer. Please know that we GCs understand that gender ideology has swept away gay men, lesbians, transsexuals, gender non-conforming children – and women – in its fanatical drive for self ID, non binary and other lunacies.

  11. My heart goes out to you, Louise, and I hope the NHS will soon realise what a mistake they are making by lumping transsexuals in with the current ideaology.

    I worked with a woman who’d been through surgery many years ago, was accepted by all her colleagues and was able to live her life. I often wonder what is happening to her now but, unsurprisingly, she appears to have disappeared from all social platforms.

    I’ve had to leave a few women’s groups owing to the hateful comments whenever I ask about how the current mess affects people who are genuine transsexuals. Comments such as ‘There’s no such thing’ and strongly worded accusations that I’m enabling the eradication of women show that they just don’t want to acknowledge another dimension to this issue.

    I wish you and Scott every happiness x

    1. You might have accepted him, but I’m sure that most of your female colleagues were revolted by the idea of him “living his life” at their expense.

      1. You may be ‘sure’, but that really wasn’t the case. No one was ‘revolted’ – we all fit in very well and shared many social occasions which no one was forced to attend.

        There are plenty of so-called transwomen around now who would revolt me and who I would not accept, and I do understand your anger, but please don’t assume you know how my colleagues felt in a situation you know nothing about.

        1. Your colleagues may have been unwilling to express their revulsion to you as you’re so tender about that man, but I assure you that decent women are revolted by such men.

  12. I note that “Louise” doesn’t state that he doesn’t use women’s facilities, but he seems to think that he ought to be able to because in his mind he’s a “transsexual”. He’s not. He’s a man who dresses as a woman. The fact that he’s been castrated doesn’t change that fact. His lack of respect for women’s privacy is very manly.

  13. Lynn Alderson avatar
    Lynn Alderson

    The trans lobby abandoned the term transsexuals some years ago. They refuse a medical diagnosis yet insist on medical solutions on demand and on self declaration or diagnosis. They have redefined this in the same way they have tried to redefine homosexuality as about gender rather than sex. This ideological movement doesn’t care how much harm it does to confused kids, lesbian and gays, women or people who describe themselves as transsexuals.
    The Supreme Court had no choice but to discount GRCs – if they took them as indicating an actual change of sex they could not protect the rights of women, lesbians and gay men whose rights are determined via sex, not identity. As they pointed out otherwise a man could be described as heterosexual one day but magically a lesbian the next if he got a GRC.
    Whilst I have some sympathy for those from a different time while lives are affected by this wave of aggressive identity politics, its women including many lesbians who have had to take the lead and had to fight with everything we’ve got – the damage to our fundamental rights has been too great to risk. in my experience the lies are all from the trans lobby. It’s a fact that many cross dressing, fetishist men are prominent in their movement. The misogyny and is very evident. There is no attempt to distinguish between young people rejecting stereotypes and middle aged men with agp. They have steam rollered any nuance, deliberately, ignored signs of harm to anyone, fabricated research and refuse to acknowledge what is an increasingly large number of detransitioners – young people who have endured great harm..
    Men should have spoken out as well as women, transsexuals, gay men – all are impacted. But by and large, they haven’t.
    The GC movement is essentially defensive and reactive. We wouldn’t be doing this if the assault on our rights and reality hadn’t been pursued so violently, without even allowing the legitimacy of women’s voices, any other voices, any questions at all. We’d rather be doing something else.

  14. Caralyn Longhurst avatar
    Caralyn Longhurst

    Louise’s letter is important reading and brings me back to wishing that party politics, and those who are unable to see anything beyond the boundaries of their own ‘side’, could be removed from this.

    Many will find this crass, but my first real thinking about transsexual people came through watching Hayley in Coronation Street.  She was a lovely, funny sympathetic character whose medical history made her vulnerable to some challenging storylines.  Up until then, transsexuality had simply not figured very much in my thinking.

    In my working life, I came into contact with a very small number of people who were born male but had, with great determination and courage, decided to live as women.  It did not bother me when I saw these people in the women’s toilets; it would not have troubled me had I encountered them in any single sex space for women.  I never felt the need to argue that such people were, or were not, women; or to define what it is to be a woman. It just didn’t come up.  The women I knew were an infinite variety of creatures anyway.  I don’t recollect much discussion about birth sex with any of them.  I’m sure some will find this objectionable, but there was enough space in my world for, if you like, ‘Honorary’ women. 

    Being drawn into the, so called, TERF wars came about through the onslaught of trans activism and its journey into increasingly absurd and dangerous territory.  I had never felt that people of my sex needed protection from the Louises of this world. I always had a penchant for championing the underdog, but the sheer brute strength of the trans epidemic and the way it forced  its ideology, and practice, upon every aspect of society, including education, language, health, culture and governance, was too much to ignore.  At its most extreme is the barbaric pseudo-medical harm being done to children and young people and the destruction of hard fought civil and human rights and protections of women. The table turned. The underdog had become the vicious, drooling, XL Bully.

    The Trans action sledgehammer has provoked unavoidable reaction.    Common sense, truth, decency and science should have prevailed. It should not have been necessary for legislators and others to step in to curtail the harm being done.   But it was.  And it will be until the trans lobby gets a grip of itself; or until others simply reject what they have come to stand for.

    Louise is right that she has been caught in the crossfire.  I hope her GP can be persuaded to continue the treatment Louise needs without consigning her to the Gender laboratory.  And I hope she retrieves the quiet enjoyment of her life.  She is not my enemy.  I don’t want to be hers.

    1. Hayley in Coronation Street was (I believe) very deliberately played by a (small) woman. I now see it as a piece of gaslighting.

      1. Wendy Anderson avatar
        Wendy Anderson

        I too was thinking that audience reaction would have been different if they had cast a man to play the role of ‘Hayley’ — they avoided any real debate by casting a woman in the role.

        1. Yes. It was a pice of propaganda, in effect, if not in intent

  15. I was prepared to listen to Louise’s perspective until it degenerated in accusations of genocide and hyperbolic accusations that women who only want to retain their own single sex spaces want to kill transgender people.

    I fear that Louise is demonstrating the same male pattern aggression we see with transactivists when they don’t get their own way.

  16. If someone has an operation and takes hormones to present as the opposite sex, they are both transgender and transexual.
    If you are not comfortable in your biological body then of course you will do everything in your power to change your body to fit your mind, which you have done.
    Go and live your life and good luck, but don’t castigate GC people who see you as a biological man because you are still male.

    1. Wendy Anderson avatar
      Wendy Anderson

      I too was thinking that audience reaction would have been different if they had cast a man to play the role of ‘Hayley’ — they avoided any real debate by casting a woman in the role.

  17. Hi Nick
    There is evidence below, from the Swedish study, that suggests that transsexuals who have undergone SRS still retain male patterns of criminality. It is true that later Home Office statistics omit people with GRCs, who are probably recorded as opposite-sex. That is hardly the fault of GC people. I was physically present when a male transsexual became aggressive and abusive and it was as frightening as when a non-transsexual man does the same. Look at the words that Louise is using to describe us: blatantly lie, propaganda, Goebbels, extermination, bigots, screech (a derogatory way to refer to women’s speech). There is anger here, way more of it directed towards GC women than to ‘transgender agitators’, and anger directed towards women by men is particularly threatening.

    https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Evidence-and-data-on-transwomens-offending-rates.pdf

    Historically, doctors told these men that they had to ‘live as a woman’ for 2 years before they could be considered for SRS. This included using the spaces set aside for women’s privacy, dignity and safety. No-one asked women what they thought about this. The very small numbers involved meant that most women would not encounter such a man, outside of certain alternative clubs, and there was also the suggestion that they were ‘harmless’ because they were gay men without penises. There were, apparently, feminists who raised the alarm very early on and there were, of course, women who had undergone sexual trauma who found it terrifying to find a man in what they considered to be a safe space. However, most of us were unaware of this and the status quo would probably have continued if Queer Theory had not pushed at the boundaries.
    Louise is what the ‘trans community’ calls a transmedicalist. He is correct that the trans activists are not helping his situation. Many of them despise the transmedicalists as ‘gatekeeping’ the trans identity by insisting that gender dysphoria is a medical condition for which a medical and/or surgical solution should be sought. However, it was determined that it would be a human rights violation to insist on surgery before issuing a GRC, and I cannot see that that will ever be overturned.
    So we are left with the situation that no woman can tell, when seeing or hearing a trans-identified male, whether he is a transsexual (with or without a GRC), a man simply identifying as transgender or a man with a sexual fetish. They are all men, not varying degrees of ‘women’.
    Of course many of us GC women have compassion for these men. Much of social media does not readily lend itself to that sort of discussion, but I can assure you, and Louise, that many of us accept that they are in an unenviable position. We have men in our lives that we love; we are not ignorant of the stresses and demands that come with being a man.
    However, I cannot see what solution Louise is offering. Men cannot become women, and should never have been sold such a lie.

    1. Excellent post, Mary.

  18. Norma Laming avatar

    This is an interesting letter and I thank Louise. I can understand the worry about changing provider..

    There’s lots I disagree with, but I’m not going to go into it all. The bit that really gave me pause for thought is: “I believe GCs are desperate to erase the difference between them in the hope of persuading the public (who never cared before) that they don’t want these people anywhere near their wives and daughters. “

    That seems to me to be a misunderstanding of many things. It assumes that GCs are all men, which is bizarre. The point is it’s biological women who have fought so hard because we believe in the reality of sex differences.

    I don’t want Louise to be unhappy. I don’t want Louise to be attacked or persecuted. I also believe that you can’t change sex and I don’t believe he is a woman. Still, I’d go along with calling him “her” and “Louise” if I met him. For the record, I’m not desperate about anything but I am firm about biological reality.

  19. I read ‘Louise’s’ essay with an open mind and my takeaway was that he is just another very angry man who does not like being told no.

    I have some sympathy with him in that he has had his own way for a really long time to suddenly be told that his medical care is changing dramatically.

    However his open vehemence when voicing his views on women fighting back was telling. There was zero understanding that the so called GC movement was born out of a reaction to the sustained, well coordinated and vicious attack on women’s rights and the very definition of the word woman itself.

    I felt the rage in his words and I’m sure I would feel deep fear coming face to face with him in a women’s only space

  20. There’s a man who catches my bus frequently. An older gentleman who wears overtly ‘feminine’ women’s clothes. He seems like an unassuming person and I bear him no ill-will. He might be Louise, how would I know?

    I’d hate for him to be the recipient of aggression or violence.

    But I have no way of knowing whether he has a GRC, or whether he has taken hormones, or whether he’s had his penis inverted, and I don’t really care.

    He’s male, and I’d hate for him to turn up in my changing room at the Leisure Centre (as until very recently he’d have been allowed to by the Policy of that establishment – and this is a changing room used by girls from the age of 7 and up) or in the public toilets.

    Just because his life choices have made him more vulnerable (to other men) than some other men, does not alter the fact that he’s not a woman.

  21. I have some sympathy with Louise not wanting to lose continuity of care from the GP.

    But the idea that transexuals and transgender people are somehow different and should be treated differently in law is nonsense. Louise’s sex remains male – a male with significant surgical and other intervention – but a male nonetheless. Louise needs appropriate medical care but that is very different from saying that Louise is a woman and therefore to be treated like every other female. It has been unlawful for some time for surgery to be a requirement for recognition of a gender change. So men who castrate themselves and men who simply wear a dress are just different types of men. Louise may not want to be seen the same but a man’s wants do not change reality.

    And, crucially, Louise pays no regard to women’s needs – for safety, for dignity, for privacy, for basic common decency. If Louise does not want to use male only facilities then gender neutral facilities are the answer. Not turning female only facilities into mixed sex ones. Because once that happens any man can go in. And the sort of men who will go in are precisely the sort of men who need to stay out. For all the criticisms Louise makes of the transgender movement, he is doing precisely the same: stating that his demands are “rights” without ever considering women.

    I hope Louise finds happiness with Scott but Louise needs to accept that he is not and never will be a woman not attack women who refuse to deny biological reality.

    1. Indeed. Louise pays absolutely no regard to women’s needs, to the extent he never actually refers to women’s rights campaigners as women at all in his long, angry post.

    2. PurpleSocks avatar

      I think this comment:

      Transsexuals are NOT cross-dressers but I believe GCs are desperate to erase the difference between them in the hope of persuading the public (who never cared before) that they don’t want these people anywhere near their wives and daughters.

      gives away the truth; Louise does not consider women to be real people, like men but different; they are not part of “the public” and are considered only as adjuncts of men.

  22. Alexandria Reid avatar
    Alexandria Reid

    Thank you to Louise for writing this. I actually found parts of it quite moving, particularly the very human story of finding love at 65. I genuinely hope she and Scott have many happy years together, and I am sorry that a letter about her healthcare has caused her such distress.

    There is also something in Louise’s account that I think deserves much more discussion: the difference she draws between her experience as a post-operative transsexual woman and what is now encompassed by the much broader term “transgender”. Ironically, it has largely been LGBT organisations and trans activists themselves who have moved away from the word “transsexual”, regarding it as outdated because of its association with medicalisation. People such as Louise appear to have been left in a strange position where the terminology they used to describe their own experience has almost disappeared.

    Where I disagree with Louise is in her account of how the gender-critical movement arose. It did not simply appear one day determined to make life difficult for people like her. For years, women raised concerns about changes involving sex-based language and spaces, communal changing facilities, prisons, sport and policies based on gender identity. Too often, legitimate questions were treated as inherently hateful rather than answered. Decisions were sometimes made with remarkably little discussion with the women who would also be affected.

    Eventually, some women simply said: enough.

    That doesn’t mean every gender-critical argument is correct, nor does it excuse cruelty, mockery or deliberately humiliating trans people. I have no interest whatsoever in making Louise’s life more difficult. I would happily address her as Louise and as she wishes to be addressed. I want her to receive appropriate healthcare, to live peacefully in her community and to enjoy her relationship. None of those things threaten me.

    But kindness cannot mean that women are never allowed to say no.

    There will be situations where sex matters. Sport is an obvious example. So are prisons, some healthcare settings and communal changing rooms where people undress. Toilets themselves concern me far less than communal intimate spaces. Recognising that reality isn’t the same thing as saying that trans people should be treated badly. Sometimes the answer may require finding better arrangements that preserve the dignity, privacy and safety of everybody involved rather than insisting that one group’s needs must automatically override another’s.

    I also think Louise inadvertently identifies one of the biggest problems with the modern debate. “Trans woman” can now describe people with profoundly different circumstances: someone who transitioned medically and surgically decades ago; someone taking hormones but who has not had surgery; someone who cannot or does not want surgery; or someone whose transition is principally social. Whatever terminology we ultimately use, pretending these circumstances are identical does not help anybody when writing policy.

    The same need for care applies particularly to children and young people. A distressed child deserves time, psychological support and careful exploration of what is happening rather than either ideological camp deciding the answer in advance. Gender distress can exist alongside many other things, including difficulties with puberty, sexuality, body image or neurodivergence. That doesn’t mean a young person cannot ultimately be transgender. It means the consequences are important enough that we should want careful, individualised assessment rather than slogans from either side.

    Louise also makes an interesting point about criminal statistics. I don’t think the solution is to manipulate statistics in either direction. We should record relevant information accurately and transparently. If legal sex, biological sex or GRC status is relevant to understanding a dataset, the methodology should make that clear. Good evidence should allow us to discover the answer rather than starting with the answer we want and arranging the categories around it.

    What saddens me most is how poisonous this entire discussion has become. People on both sides have tried to destroy reputations and careers rather than listen. Women expressing boundaries are called hateful; trans people are sometimes spoken about as though they are inherently predatory or ridiculous. Neither is acceptable.

    I don’t believe Louise is my enemy. Reading her account actually reinforces that for me.

    Perhaps the lesson from her experience is that we need to get much better at recognising complexity. We should be capable of saying simultaneously that Louise deserves dignity, appropriate lifelong healthcare, love and the freedom to live peacefully; that women deserve privacy, dignity, safety and the ability to maintain sex-based boundaries where these are necessary; and that neither group should have to surrender its humanity for the other to be heard.

    I want Louise to be happy. I want her to be treated with kindness and compassion. I don’t want anybody humiliating her or making her frightened to leave her home.

    But compassion has to travel in both directions. Her rights matter. So do mine.

    Surely we ought to be capable of beginning a conversation from there.

    1. Damian Walls avatar

      he. his. him. I thought you wanted relevant information to be recorded accurately.

    2. Jane Alexander avatar
      Jane Alexander

      It’s only sex realists whose lives have been destroyed. ‘Trans’ is favoured over women everywhere. If any ‘trans’ lives have been destroyed it’s more likely because they have taken too many cross sex hormones, had disastrous surgeries or they have pushed women over the edge and have had to litigate to retain their sex-based rights. No one can change sex and that’s it.
      There is no “both sides” here.

  23. veronica lovenkrands avatar
    veronica lovenkrands

    Obviously it’s important that Louise receives his cross sex hormone prescription as his body no longer is able to make sufficient hormones due to the elective surgery he received. It’s a big risk to change your body so that you have to relying on medical care for your own ongoing wellbeing and we can assume that this step wasn’t taken lightly.

    However, nothing that Louise says here actually shows that this prescription will not be supplied. He is assuming going to the “back of the queue” at the gender clinic. This is fear and not fact. I have found my capacity for empathy to have been severely limited over the last 10 years or so by this sort of hyperbole. Everyone is out to get you all the time. Changes must be made to the law because of this terrible treatment, this horrific discrimination.

    I find it difficult to care any longer without rock solid evidence.

    Nor do I see any meaningful distinction between transexual and transgender. A transexual person does not in fact change their sex, just as a transgender person not change their gender (since the concept of gender is without clear definition and it is therefore impossible to know when such a transition has happened). What’s between your legs is of no interest to me, nor is it any of my business. It’s not reasonable to classify people based on a surgical procedure that they may or may not have undergone.

    I wish you well, but there is nothing new here.

    1. He has no medical need for cross-sex hormones and never has had such a need. He may have a need for male hormones as he’s a castrated man, but that’s different. Men like him are why women are finding the HRT they have a medical need for are in short supply.

      1. Wonder what the risks of high doses of oestrogen are on men?

        Women taking oestrogen as part of HRT have to sometimes jump through hoops to get it in the first place, or to receives an increased dose. Many GP are still ignorant or even negative about HRT despite its great health benefits to women and low risk in most women. We sometimes have to be referred to Menopause Consultants, particularly in more complex cases where there are other medical conditions. The wait for that can be months.

        So, in a 65 year old man, receiving a hormone that is not replacing any they’ve lost, I can well believe that GPs would need to refer to specialists – and those specialists work in Gender Clinics.

        1. MR NIGEL BARKER avatar
          MR NIGEL BARKER

          Large cohort studies tracking transgender women on long-term oral estrogen have noted an approximate 80% increase in the relative risk of ischemic stroke. Additionally there is an increase risk of deep vein thrombosis (DVT), pulmonary enbolism (PE) & myocardial infarction (MI).

          1. Thank you Mr Barker!

          2. Ríobhca Ní Sheildhall avatar
            Ríobhca Ní Sheildhall

            I believe the MS risk in males abusing wrong sex hormones is also much higher than those who aren’t. I might be misremembering but it was something like seven times. But were talking about small cohort numbers here because the follow up is appalling, so it’ll be a case of time telling.

    2. I wanted to add. We know that not all men who ‘identify’ as women are transvestites, or Heterosexual autogynephiles. (some of whom also have their gonads removed, by the way).

      There have always been men who rejected their attraction to other men, or got it beaten out of them and decided that they must be women. That’s very sad.

      But gay men aren’t women either, and gay men don’t belong in women’ spaces. Any more than my lovely, disabled elderly father, who wouldn’t hurt a fly, belongs in women’s spaces.

      Good men stay out, so that bad men stand out. No exceptions. Fear-mongering (who says you will be at the end of the queue at gender clinics?) and suicide threats are abusive manipulation, by the way, as many women living with such men will tell you.

  24. Damian Walls avatar

    genocide 🫣

  25. Years ago at Lancaster Uni, the University Centre for Computer Corpus Research on Language studied the differences between male and female writing patterns. Very illuminating.This man’s writing patterns shows us his sex without ever having to meet him in the flesh.
    I do not buy into the myth of old school benign transexualism. Jan Morris’s work dripped with misogynistic purple prose. Some of the most misogynistic trans rights activist men today have had their penis removed. This does not grant them any right to be called women.

  26. Lynne Oliver avatar

    As a 68 year old grandmother, a sex realist, with a trans-identifying grandson I see the GC community as a women’s movement (with a smattering of men who (far too slowly) are realising they have a part standing beside us ) who rally against a 100% misogynistic army of men and their allies.

    It must be hard to not* see yourself as a victim after society changes it’s clothes and you finally get pushback and see consequences for taking away a woman’s right for space of her own, which is what any man who professes to be a woman does, whether he’s had reassignment surgery or not. Whether it was last week or decades ago.

    This statement “Louise is annoyed at both “GCs” (gender critical people) and “transgenderists” annoys the heck out of me too! It seems like Louise is out to blame….well, everybody.
    I may not be alive when the world comes to it’s senses because this fight for sanity is huge and has too many tendrils to come to a worldwide consensus anytime soon but I’m proud of and stand by my sex realist stance.

    Elle

  27. Arabella Scott avatar
    Arabella Scott

    I note that women speaking are characterised as ‘bigots who screech’.

    It’s quite astonishing how women’s voices are described by people who object to us having thoughts or opinions on our rights and legal protections.

    I have zero interest in how Louise wishes to live; so long as Louise stays out of women’s spaces, it’s none of my business. The ‘gcs’ that Louise is so hostile towards are merely asserting the most basic of things – that women are humans, and are just as entitled to human rights as men are.

  28. It’s perfectly sensible that this sort of care should be delivered by specialists in an appropriate clinic rather than by a GP. It happens to very many people over a range of conditions. Adults need to be able to deal with such changes without special pleading and unnecessary panic.
    Louise is fortunate to have found a suitable partner rather late in life and should focus on this as a positive.

  29. I think that there is a clue to Louise’s medication issues in his age. He says that he is 65. Many medications are licensed for use in the 18 – 65 age range only. Once you are over that range a GP might well feel the need for referral on to a specialist. It is fair to say that the whole situation could, perhaps, have been better handled by Louise’s GP but I think that most of us have had recent NHS experiences that would make toes curl and Louise is probably just on the receiving end of a healthcare system in crisis. It seems unnecessarily inflammatory for him to turn this into a diatribe against women who just want their rights secured.

  30. I understand that you plan to delete unkind comments, so I will try to phrase this in the most kind way I can.

    Women have rights and no man is a woman. I have heard it all before from these men, and I have absolutely zero sympathy for any of them. The men who are predators are despicable (ie rapist men in dresses and men in dresses who go into women’s spaces). The public paraphiliacs are disgusting and despicable. The mentally ill ones only get sympathy if they are actively engaging in MH ssupport to address their delusions.

    I am sick of these entitled men being platformed, and it is very boring too. Heard it all before.

    1. I am pathetically grateful that we were allowed to refer to Louise with male pronouns. But thank you Nick!

  31. When you said “I have let the assertions in the piece below stand untouched, as I think it offers an insight into a specific perspective which is worth hearing” you lost me.

    More appropriate would have been “some people recognized the harm of gender ideology decades ago, some much more recently. If you literally haven’t heard anything about the issue before and want to get a sense of what mental illness and despicable male entitlement look like then read this, but if you’ve been paying attention skip it – you’ve heard it a million times before and it is very very tedious.”

  32. Angela Murphy avatar
    Angela Murphy

    A few comments about Louise’s post.
    1. What have they done about engaging with trans activists to explain their position and views? If they are fearful of the response, then they are far less brave than the many women who have fought for women’s rights and child safeguarding.
    2. Why doesn’t Louse campaign for appropriate data-collection, so that there is evidence to support their argument?
    3. Louise’s vitriolic response to GC women is classic blame the woman and undermines their argument in my opinion.
    4. If Louise wants things to change, then they must fight for it. That’s what women have been doing for centuries.

  33. Carol Brown avatar

    It is a fact of life that you cannot choose your sex.

    An adult is free to make a lifestyle choice to *present* as the opposite sex from their true sex however. But such a choice comes with consequences – not always entirely foreseen at the time.

    If a man wants to present as a woman, there are consequences for other people in society – eg women who have different needs from men. With the growing imposition of “trans ideology” in society, women are being asked to accept a wholesale change to a system which previously protected their safety and dignity. A simple fact of life is that males are sexually attracted to females for the purpose of continuing the species. It is basic human biology that if a woman removes her clothes in front of a man she is potentially vulnerable to his (unwanted) sexual attention.

    There are also consequences for the GPs who prescribe cross sex hormones (and puberty blockers) in a hitherto unregulated field. If GPs prescribe “off label” drugs which don’t have full approval from the medicines regulator as having been adequately proven “safe and effective” then they are vulnerable to claims of medical negligence should their patients suffer adverse effects. I suspect this is one of the main reasons for taking such prescribing out of the hands of GPs : it is to protect the GPs.

    “Louise” has been fortunate to avoid these issues until recently. Now that there is growing awareness of transgender/transsexual ideology (call it what you will) and its potential societal harms, he cannot reasonably expect to make a choice for himself and expect others to accept the consequences.

  34. Sarah Parsons avatar
    Sarah Parsons

    As an example of ‘Operation Let Them Speak’ this article works well. Another, entitled, misogynistic man having a toddler tantrum because he’s afraid he will lose the rights that he was never entitled to in the first place. I do find it amusing that there is now some sort of hierarchy within this ideology, that this transsexual believes he is superior to those who describe themselves as mere trans women, as though HIS fake ‘womaning’ is somehow of a superior quality and should therefore be treated with more respect. Scratch the surface and they’re just plain old, misogynistic men.

    1. Geraldine McColl avatar
      Geraldine McColl

      Well put.

  35. Charlotte R avatar

    What I don’t understand is what ‘living as a woman’ means and I am one. Obviously biology plays a part – if you are a woman you are potentially dealing with menstruation, pregnancy and birth, lactation and menopause. Your body is built differently to accommodate potential pregnancy and birth, hence the reason why including men in women’s sport is never going to be fair – lowered testosterone will never equalise the differences in hip angle, heart and lung capacity and more. So what is it that living as a woman means if you are not one to start with? You can wear what you like, most careers are open to both sexes and if they’re not it is with good reason, you are allowed to like or enjoy feminine things if you’re a man and there are many women who don’t enjoy stereotypically ‘feminine’ pursuits. So if you get past costume and/or and surgery, living as a woman can only ever mean accessing female only spaces and roles, and that should never have been allowed because those spaces are generally for reasons of privacy and safety or for psychological safety when discussing female experiences.

    Beyond basic biology, which men will never attain, there is no way you can live as a woman which doesn’t involve some kind of performance of female stereotypes – as Greer put it ‘female is real and it’s sex, femininity is unreal and it’s gender, and it’s a role you play.’ I can’t declare myself a different age and if I were to declare a different ethnicity (as per Rachel Dolezal), it would be seen as profoundly offensive. I don’t understand how cultural appropriation became so taboo at the same time as appropriating womanhood became so celebrated. Men may want to be women and vice versa but the reality is it can only ever be role play, and, for those who have had surgery and hormones, it is extreme role play. It would have been far better to manage this reality for the people in the grip of gender dysphoria and explore the reasons for the feelings about their bodies. It was cruel to ever let people believe changing sex was a thing.

    Louise does have a point about offending rates between those men who self ID as women and those who have had surgery but the data shows that post op men have the same sexual offending rates as other men, not women. Roughly speaking about 18% of men are in prison for sexual offences and around 1% of women. Men pose a threat to women regardless of how they present – 99% of sexual offences are committed by men and women are 88% of the victims. Men are also in general much stronger, faster and taller than women. Most men could kill a woman with their bare hands, the same is not true in reverse. It is basic safeguarding to keep women’s spaces for women. We know it isn’t all men but it is quite a few and we can’t have a policy of just letting the nice ones in.

    We also know that dysphoria is not the only driver – for some men it is clearly a paraphilia that becomes ever more extreme. Most women have encountered these men in their day to day lives. We know some men will go to extraordinary lengths for sexual kicks – see the recent case of the surgeon with an amputation fetish. Women don’t know if the man in their changing room or in the next toilet cubicle is someone suffering with gender dysphoria or just a pervert although it’s pretty obvious that the men turning up to support groups for experiences they can never have had are autogynephiliacs – why else would a male be at a menopause, breastfeeding or traumatic birth group. So whilst I feel sorry for Louise for being misled about the reality of his situation, my focus is on women’s needs and keeping women and girls safe. Louise can be accommodated within society without women and girls having to give up hard fought for rights. It’s time for men to step up and say all kinds of men are welcome in their spaces.

  36. An interesting article, but the whole rant (if I may call it such) is based on an assumption that Louise’s hormone supply is going to stop for several years because the scripts will come from a gender clinic instead of the GP.
    Is this a reasonable assumption?
    If, as he says, his body cannot function without them, why does he assume there will now be a years-long interruption in their supply?

    Louise also unfortunately wastes little time before getting to the “bigot” bit with reference to sex-realist women, and this time we “screech” as well. At no point does he acknowledge that women DO NOT KNOW whether a given bloke in our space has had his genitals removed or not. (His GRC references are irrelevant; surgery is not a prerequisite to obtaining a GRC).

    There are several other inaccuracies, as pointed out in previous comments, but these two points are the most striking to me. Louise is not thinking logically from the outset, and displays zero empathy for women, despite (presumably) claiming to now be one.

    I do sympathise that the new “I’m a woman today” brigade are giving the old-timers both a hard time and a bad name. Unfortunately, when one messes with nature like this, one must accept that there are likely to be consequences. These consequences are *not* the fault of sex-realist women.

    1. He comes across as an angry man who wants everyone to bow to his demands. In reality, he’s most likely a gay man who came of age at a time when being gay was pretty tough, when ‘queer’ was a slur that usually accompanied a beating from other men, when fathers expressed disgust and shame for their gay sons, when people like Larry Grayson were the only gay men represented in the media, when gay sportsmen (footballers in particular) went to great lengths to hide their sexuality. So there’s no surprise that many such gay men suffered from internalised homophobia and searched for a way out of their misery.
      What a perfect solution ‘transsexualism’ offered! Suddenly men like Louise weren’t gay men, they were straight women because they’d changed sex. Louise’s partner will not be heterosexual – he will be bisexual or gay. And that’s great. What a pity that society treated gay men so appallingly, and still does in many ways, that they had to claim to be female to be accepted. The sad thing is, they’re still not accepted as female. At best they are accepted as ‘transwomen’ and at times lauded for ‘passing’ so well. Society has played a big part in this, but ultimately its men like Louise who chose the pathway they did that should take responsibility.

      1. I agree.

        And it would therefore be no surprise that it takes gay AND heterosexual trans-identifying men such a long time to find partner relationships, particularly sexual relationships.

        Gay men generally fancy men who look like men and have a penis; heterosexual women generally like men who have a penis; gay women generally like women who are female (however they ‘identify’ themselves)!

        So you drastically cut down your pool of potential partners.

        Was this ever explained to people undergoing such hormonal treatments and drastic surgery? And how could it ever be explained to someone with no sexual experience, such that they could give proper informed consent?

        What a terrible thing to do to people. But the fact that ‘woman’ is some sort of identity or consolation prize , and that our feelings and our rights are given no consideration, is also deeply upsetting to many women like me.

      2. Charlotte R avatar

        Very true and also the reason why Iran is one of the world leaders in trans surgeries.

  37. Jane Alexander avatar
    Jane Alexander

    It’s interesting that you put this piece here Nick and I’d be fascinated to know your own take on ‘Louise’s’ story.

    My own is that his bitterness and misogyny are quite blatant and make it impossible to feel the sort of compassion he clearly thinks he deserves. There was no such thing as ‘gender dysphoria’ back when he elected to undergo surgery (if indeed he did – we have to take these men’s word for it) Indeed there is still no such thing. It was introduced, through vigorous ‘trans’ activism, as a ‘diagnosis’ in the DSM (the American Diagnostic &Statistical Manual for mental health) in 2013, replacing ‘gender identity disorder’. The idea was to remove it as a mental heath issue & re-create it as a medical condition. The idea being to make it easier to get the various surgeries that some people who wanted for whatever reason, to pretend to be the opposite sex.

    What is not clear is what a ‘transsexual’ is, Does he really believe that surgeries to his genitals can change a person’s sex? It He is certainly desperate for us to believe it. The truth is of course that no one can change sex. People are free to be ‘gender’ non-conforming and to play against stereotypes. But no cross-sex hormones are necessary for that. He thinks that he needs cross sex hormones (oestrogen) to survive but he has it backwards. It is the continuation of female HRT that will cause him medical issues. As a man, his body needs testosterone. He may be castrated (who knows?) but his pituitary still thinks he’s a man, whatever the rest of his brain believes.

    The bottom line is that gender (sex) confusion or distress in adults is a mental disorder. But now that people are beginning to cotton on to the fetishist & autogynephilic reasons for cross-dressing, the ‘trans’ lobby is worried it might be re-psychopathologised (ie re-introduced as a mental disorder – which is why they are strenuously pushing this new Conversion Therapy bill. It is a travesty of a bill that could criminalise anyone suggesting that investigating a claim to feeling that they were ‘born in the wrong body’ should be investigated with care as to why they might feel that way. ‘Trans’ however demands instant affirmation. (Importantly, having a mental disorder should not be stigmatised, but given appropriate treatment) For children especially, affirmation is disastrous. The fact that a puberty blocker trial has recently been given the green light will without any doubt see some of them going on to cross sex hormones & possibly further, to harmful sterilising surgeries.

    So in the end I’m sorry to say that, whilst I’m glad ‘Louise’ has found someone to be happy with, I find him to be just as entitled and misogynistic as all the other men who want to skin walk women and diminish us as a sex category.

    Compassion is as compassion does.

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